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HDU Dealers in the USA?
« on: May 14, 2013, 01:36:30 PM »
Forum member and fellow 3D sign producer Lindsay Neethawk inquired to us for DUNA availability. Gene, Melissa, and I are still organizing and figuring out logistics. I thought it be helpful to do this in the meantime.

If you could just list your supplier location and brands they carry.

I'll start with what I know about Minnesota:

NGlantz Minneapolis metro carries Design Board
Midwest Sign Supply in Saint Paul carries Sign Foam III
Midwest Products in Hastings MN carries Precision Board

Coming Soon: ABC Signs in Blaine will carry DUNA

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Re: HDU Dealers in the USA?
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2013, 09:52:10 AM »
So just spoke to a Duna supplier in Manchester New Hampshire. They are

www.PlasticSupply.com
(603)669-2727

I spoke to a Jeff. They have only 15lb in stock and are currently out of 2" till mid to late summer, but they have plenty of 1.5" available. They also have a 10x15' cnc machine.. Though I might not have heard him correctly with the kids screaming in the background LOL. Just wanted to add this.

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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 03:42:00 PM »
N. Glantz Pittsburgh Design Board
Pioneer Pittsburgh Duna
Harbor Sales Signfoam and claim to have PrecisionBoard, but it's never in stock.

15# seems to be the norm from all of them.

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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2013, 06:50:07 AM »
Garston Sign Supplies Hartford CT,
Nepco Products Company RI,
New England Sign Supply MA,
Harte Supply MA.

All sell Sign Foam.

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Re: HDU Dealers in the USA?
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2013, 03:56:34 PM »
Thanks guys! This list should be a mile long by now.


Support your local shop by sharing their details. It might help them buy larger and lower their retail price. Hey we can dream right?


Of the three from Minnesota, N. Glantz has really great service and by far the largest delivery route. Their Minneapolis branch manager; Dan Buys is a true letterhead artist. Which makes the buying and visiting experience pretty cool.


Once Gene gets rolling with his DUNA, skys the limit!   :stunned:   :sunny:   :laugh2:

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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2013, 09:21:08 PM »
Hey all, let's post what our local suppliers charge PSF for HDU. They all are probably buying it for about the same price but mark up is regional. I can push my suppliers with a decent order say... 96sf or more to sell 1.5" sign foam for about $8.50 psf. What are others paying?
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Re: HDU Dealers in the USA?
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2013, 09:34:48 PM »
It's hard to say for sure, but Midwest Sign Supply and N GLantz supply have online user accounts where you get your pricing. Not sure of they even have regional pricing, but it's possible.


1.5"  4ft by 8ft  15lbs    Design Board at N Glantz Minneapolis is:  $355.00

1.5"  4ft by 8ft  15lbs    Sign Foam at Midwest is $343.00


Which is strange on a bunch of other sizes Glantz is cheaper.

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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2013, 04:54:24 AM »
I pay
Corafoam $10.90 per sq. ft..  20 lb .. 1.5 in. ( full sheet price  $348.80 )

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Re: HDU Dealers in the USA?
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2013, 11:37:08 AM »
It's hard to say for sure, but Midwest Sign Supply and N GLantz supply have online user accounts where you get your pricing. Not sure of they even have regional pricing, but it's possible.


1.5"  4ft by 8ft  15lbs    Design Board at N Glantz Minneapolis is:  $355.00

1.5"  4ft by 8ft  15lbs    Sign Foam at Midwest is $343.00


Which is strange on a bunch of other sizes Glantz is cheaper.

Midwest has a much larger stock of thicknesses- Glantz only had 1.5 when last I called. Gene

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Re: HDU Dealers in the USA?
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2014, 04:53:49 PM »
So my Denco rep was here this noon. He's told me they are switching from Signfoam to Corafoam.
They will carry two weights 15# & 18#. He alluded to the idea that Corafoam's 15# is close to
equivelent to Signfoam's heavy density 18#. I have Corafoam samples in the 15 & 18# versions.
I"m not buying that notion. Anybody have thoughts on the rep's statement?
In pure physical weight 4x8 sheets here is a weight comparison:
Corafoam 20# - 2" = 107 lbs.
Signfoam 18# - 2" = about 100 lbs.

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Re: HDU Dealers in the USA?
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2014, 06:40:27 PM »
Mark,

I don't blame you for being skeptical. We have to be on guard don't we. However Corafoam that is known as Duna is like the rep. said far superior. It's more dense and isn't grainy like most of the others.

Please let us know what you thing once you've given it a try. Another thing I like about it is the color. The bluegreen is 15lb. and the orang is 18lb. It's in a class all by itself.

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Re: HDU Dealers in the USA?
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2014, 07:05:29 PM »
no comparison, duna is far better. signfoam to me is about like precision board.

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Re: HDU Dealers in the USA?
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2014, 07:22:57 AM »
Just switch over from PB to signfoam. Much tighter grain structure better finish. My price about 243 for 1.5 15lb and 320 for 2 18lb. Plus I get all .25 4x8 packing hdu FREE. I don't have access to Duna to try it.
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Re: HDU Dealers in the USA?
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2014, 09:09:23 AM »
Thanks for the responses. So my big quesion. Does Duna's 15# have the strenght of
Signfoam's 18#.  Might have to buy some and see what I think.

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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2014, 10:01:56 AM »
in my opinion, duna 15 is as good as any other brand 18.  maybe even as good as others 20.
as far as cutting, duna is in its own class. next in line is design board. I like it as well.  then to me, pb and signfoam are similar.
all brands are better than wood in my opinion.
as far as customer service, I think pb is the easiest to deal with. they have always been nice to speak with, I just wish their product wasn't so sandy. even their 30 lb is gritty to cut.  it's a good material, but it is very expensive. in a perfect world, i'd get 20lb 2" duna.

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Re: HDU Dealers in the USA?
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2014, 11:56:01 AM »
Mark,

I think you've had some good advice about Duna. One extra note: Some HDU is time consuming to prime and get ready for finishing. PB has to be the least desirable material with regard to this. Not only is it grity but time consuming to fill. Duna 20lb needs little preparation after carving.

You probably not familiar with Corafoam so here's a little info. This is an international business with the main product used for pipe insulation in the oil industry. They have two plants in the USA and a new one being built in Dubi. Their home offices are in Italy. At this time they haven't seen the sign industry as a target market. Their focus has been more industrial and I'd bet their HDU production is ten fold all the others HDU manufacturers put together.

Lets hope they keep making these products for us and expand into Europe. 

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« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2014, 12:17:09 PM »
I have been having my best luck with stock and availability in my area at
http://www.tubelite.com/
They always have 15# Design Board

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« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2014, 12:47:54 PM »
I am pretty sure design board makes an 18 lb.  it is very good.  but the company is out of jasper Indiana and they are a pain to deal with.  15 lb design board is far better than 15 lb pb.
design board is carried by nglantz in indy, but they usually have limited supply.

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Re: HDU Dealers in the USA?
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2014, 01:17:46 PM »
I am pretty sure design board makes an 18 lb.  it is very good.  but the company is out of jasper Indiana and they are a pain to deal with.  15 lb design board is far better than 15 lb pb.
design board is carried by nglantz in indy, but they usually have limited supply.
I called the jasper place cause they are near me, and the guy wanted to know how i got his #. i said off the internet and he was surprised. Ended up telling me they wouldnt sell their product unless through a dealer. Right about the PB being gritty. Hard on bearings if you dont keep your machine blowed off.

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« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2014, 03:38:54 PM »
I am pretty sure design board makes an 18 lb.  it is very good.  but the company is out of jasper Indiana and they are a pain to deal with.  15 lb design board is far better than 15 lb pb.
design board is carried by nglantz in indy, but they usually have limited supply.
I called the jasper place cause they are near me, and the guy wanted to know how i got his #. i said off the internet and he was surprised. Ended up telling me they wouldnt sell their product unless through a dealer. Right about the PB being gritty. Hard on bearings if you dont keep your machine blowed off.
Guess we can drive there and load up at manufacturers price, have to give some of that money to the darn middleman.

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« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2014, 05:02:15 PM »
better call them first to line it up.
they acted to me like they do not like the sign trade and could care less if they sold any product to it.
i finally gave up on dealing with them.

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« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2014, 08:07:46 AM »
better call them first to line it up.
they acted to me like they do not like the sign trade and could care less if they sold any product to it.
i finally gave up on dealing with them.
I am pretty sure design board makes an 18 lb.  it is very good.  but the company is out of jasper Indiana and they are a pain to deal with.  15 lb design board is far better than 15 lb pb.
design board is carried by nglantz in indy, but they usually have limited supply.
I called the jasper place cause they are near me, and the guy wanted to know how i got his #. i said off the internet and he was surprised. Ended up telling me they wouldnt sell their product unless through a dealer. Right about the PB being gritty. Hard on bearings if you dont keep your machine blowed off.
Guess we can drive there and load up at manufacturers price, have to give some of that money to the darn middleman.

Oops, that was a typo, meant to say "Can't" not "Can"