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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 30 Dec 2014 20:34 #1

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Annie has told me there will be 2- only 4 x 4 cnc's that will be sold before the years end.
They have to be ordered from her before midnite on the 31st. the price will be 2400.00 plus shipping
the specs are 1200 x 1200 1.5 kw spindle 6 inch gantry. heck of a deal guys.


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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 31 Dec 2014 00:21 #2

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Yea, great deal :woohoo:

2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 31 Dec 2014 04:42 #3

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Sure is a GREAT deal - but no possible way I can do it. :woohoo:
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 31 Dec 2014 06:58 #4

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Wow, wish I had the cash and space for that. Nice looking machine for that price.
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 31 Dec 2014 10:53 #5

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Anybody that COULD jump on it - SHOULD - jump on it.
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 02 Jan 2015 21:46 #6

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Just came across this. Wow! This is a great deal! Dan, any chance it's still available?

2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 02 Jan 2015 21:59 #7

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I don't know, Annie said that one fella was thinking of taking them both,

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Give her a shout..
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 02 Jan 2015 22:15 #8

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Thanks, Dan. I sent her an email. Now I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Wish me luck!

2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 02 Jan 2015 22:34 #9

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Yes, she said she sent you the catalogue, I am talking with her on Skype, if you have Skype give me your Skype name and will speed things up.
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 03 Jan 2015 07:39 #10

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Dan,
Any idea on what the rough cost of shipping is on something like this? I can't afford one right now (and would have to install it in the middle of my living room if I could) but I'll looking ahead to when I get a new shop.
Thanks for any feedback on this!

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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 03 Jan 2015 07:42 #11

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There was some very recent discussion on shipping cost in Dans thread on his testing my chinese cnc long run times - thread.

I am going to plan on $1500, but that should be an absolute max number.
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 03 Jan 2015 08:34 #12

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very generally a router comes for 800 shipping.. sometime less sometime more..
everyone experiencing differently..

prepare for about 2000 extra cost over the price for shipping and custom ...
if it is less then it a good surprise..
for me the shipping was from china 800 and from Atlanta to our house was 500 (friendly price)

I also was thinking on, but beyond price I need room for.. just for those who not so familiar with prices.. a called """brand""" tekno spindle 1.5 kw cost 1500-2000 so you can have the idea what offrer was this..

while it was an incredibly offer, their regular offer always a deal too..

also doesn't matter if a brand going with 800 ipm if you have two machine with 300 ipm each... the two machine always two...

2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 03 Jan 2015 11:18 #13

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Leo, don't cut yourself short and do your homework.
here's a couple of things to note.
Custom's fees are a % of the commercial invoice which you have to supply a copy of, the actual rate is on the customs website, around $350 for 8k
your going to have brokerage fees most are around $250 then you may incur some additional port fees such as port access fees, container cleaning yada yada.which may add another $150
Then you get down to trucking, firstly since your on the east coast you need to determine the port of entry. From China its usually more economical to use the west coast port and road transport than to ship to the east coast though the Suez, Something you will need to compare cost against road transport and the additional shipping cost.

Then transport is based on crate size, cubic feet, weight and distance, top loading etc.An 8' machine will be approx 90x130x60 and 2000lb, I recommend you have labeled as no top loading. Cost of this can vary from $500 -$2000 based on the above.
Then once is arrives if you don't have the equipment to unload its going to cost you, make sure delivery is to the final destination not a depot where you incur additional delivery fees, Then the equipment to unload from the truck, usually an all terrain fork lift with extended forks or similar.
$1500 might squeak you by on a small machine, I would recommend you double that, anything less is bonus but if your smart you will do your home work, get quotes and still have a reserve.
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 03 Jan 2015 12:17 #14

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Gary thank you I do appreciate that.

I do buy machines at work, even from over seas. A lot of those fees are baked it to the machine price, so I never see them. Glad you pointed them out to me.

No I don't have equipment and that is something I will need to arrange when the time comes around to being serious about this. That will also be part of the make vs buy decision.

Generally when I buy a machine I deal with all the details from port of entry. That is trucking to my location. Then I need rigging to get the machine into location inside the building. So, I have arranged some of that. I don't think I will use the industrial machine movers, due to cost. We do a LOT of work with them, they may do me a favor.

I have watched a couple of rigging a home installation youtube vids - it is an involved process.

What I would do - as I do at work - is to compare three options on a spread sheet with all the costs involved. A fourth comparison would be a build.

Certainly a lot to think about.

Thank you for your comments
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 03 Jan 2015 13:32 #15

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Quote last nite was shipping 65$ cubic meter to port of Montreal the crate is 5 cubic meters.$325.00 That's for a 12x12 Machine or 4 x 4.
Shipping changes with the demand @ Dock in china, so if you get a quote in January and buy in june don't expect the same price.
In Canada there is no duty, just Gov. Taxes, there is a customs inspection charge, $75.00 and port fees and they change with where landed. Brokerage fee = $59.00 per. instance/ never had any complications "yet".

All my orders from China I have the shipping prepaid, so there is just the costs of entry and my broker pays all of these charges and sends me one bill, this can include shipping to my door.
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 03 Jan 2015 13:42 #16

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Me bringing Machine Home.

This was the small machine.

And the big one landing.
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 03 Jan 2015 14:21 #17

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The small Machine, I went home picked up a utility trailer I have that has a ramp tailgate, and went to a local freight line gave them 20 bucks to unload crate and put it on trailer, it weighed less than 1000 lbs, I backed up to the basement door and slid the crate from the trailer with a hand winch, once on cement uncrated and removed the gantry
had to cut the electrical wires all were color coded so no problems there turned the machine on its side on a shop cart with big wheels and pushed into house and then back onto its feet, replaced gantry and put plug connections on wiring , it wasn't a big job. as you would think. all this by myself no help and over 70 years old.
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 03 Jan 2015 14:24 #18

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Is Annie giving you all those prices?

I am wondering if I can move the machine around with man power if it is on heavy duty dollys. I have watched experienced machine movers do that with machines that weigh 6000 - 8000 pounds. Once in place then johnson bar and car floor jack to final place.

I will need a rigger to take it off the delivery truck and place it on the dollys.

I don't think my Nissan Frontier 4cyl 2 wheel drive could handle the load. Sure would look funny though. :woohoo:
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 03 Jan 2015 14:40 #19

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Yes, if its on a cement or solid floor its not a problem, after uncrating my big machine, I used 2 little bottle jacks to lift it and put wheels in the 3/4 holes all 6 where the level adjusters fit, and pushed it around the shop many time seeing where it would work the best, for wiring and vacuum and dust collection, after I was sure , jacked it up and put the levelers under it.

Some tools I have made for this over the years are, a ladder lift, its 4 -2x6 that's hinged like a ladder that can be locked at different spreads and a hand winch on it. its light and quick and will work in basements and low over heads.
I am sure you can envision it. as I don't have a picture.
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 03 Jan 2015 15:06 #20

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Yes, Annie is giving the shipping prices, my prepaid price was $ 45.00 a cubic meter to Vancouver.
The cheapest landing site on the pacific coast is Prince Rupert, the first port of call after leaving China,
Most of the products landing here are loaded onto rail cars to sites all over North America. If you wanted a 10x20 container load to Lets say Chicago, or Toronto it is shipped non stop from china to destination of a bonded warehouse for inspection, and the price is quite cheap.
I got a price of $1200.00 dollars for container to Prince George B.C. for the 10x20 container. just another route for the people interested in selling.
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2400.00 4 x 4 cnc. 03 Jan 2015 15:17 #21

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the paperwork by the bonding agnt was some 600 ... I cant recall exactly..
there was even x-ray fee when machine unloaded in calif, they xray the box..
and of course customer gets charged..
warehouse fee actually for the ware house at the port its unloaded and the other warehouse where you pick it up..

I got explained the custom broker arrange papers IN TIME ... what is important.. the documents need to be on time on the customs hand,,
if they don't find the paperwork within unloading they load back to the ship and send back to china on the customers expense..
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